2017 242X Stereo upgrade

[0627Devildog]

Funny side note. . . .my middle guy saw me holding the tower speakers and was like what are you doing with that huge coffee mug. We took this pic to commemorate it.

 

[jcyamaharider]

Finished up my install today. Everything sounds great!! I have some tuning to do and final wiring tidying up but it is functional.

Let me say that when the wetsounds sound bar is powered correctly that thing is "holy crap" loud!

That coupled with the 2 Rev 10'S , good lord I don't know if I will have hearing this time next year. Lol. I will probably end up adding another JL IB sub on the other side, I need just a little more boom.

 

[Dave burke]

This looks like a great install. Congrats.

Two questions:
- I think you now have 3 amps. Which amps are powering which speakers?
- where did you put the 420? Can you send pics?

Thx.

 

[jcyamaharider]

This looks like a great install. Congrats.

Two questions:
- I think you now have 3 amps. Which amps are powering which speakers?
- where did you put the 420? Can you send pics?

Thx.

So I have my polk 5000.5 powering the sub and the 4 interior speakers. These 4 interior speakers are also on the gain knob on the right side of my 420 so I can turn down or off the bow speakers for my kids so I do not damage their hearing.
I have my polk 4000.4 wired to 2 channels for the sound bar at about 110 watts, and then I have the other 2 channels wired to my swim deck speakers tuned in at 60 watts. I have the SYn-DX4 bridged to 2 channels for 300 watts to the rev 10's. I set the gains with a DMM and I verified the clipping point of my head unit with my DD-1.

Here is the WS-420 and the extra gain knob:

 

[Julian]

@jcyamaharider some questions for you:

1. are you adding speakers at the helm?
2. Do you have your sound bar pointing forwards or backwards?
3. I gather you heard a big difference when you put the soundbar on its own channel?

 

[jcyamaharider]

I am not going to add Helm speakers because I am going to point the sound bar forward toward the driver. I did have it like this once but it wasn't on its own channel yet so it was still kind of quiet. Now I think it will blow me away.

If anyone has any doubts about this sound bar sounding good I can vouch that if I didn't have Rev10 on the tower these would be perfect for surfing range. The Core 10 is very loud and crisp!

 

[GTBRMC]

I am not going to add Helm speakers because I am going to point the sound bar forward toward the driver. I did have it like this once but it wasn't on its own channel yet so it was still kind of quiet. Now I think it will blow me away.

If anyone has any doubts about this sound bar sounding good I can vouch that if I didn't have Rev10 on the tower these would be perfect for surfing range. The Core 10 is very loud and crisp!

Begs the question why Yamaha doesn't power it properly out of the factory. The base model "Seaworthy" treatment was an annoying but understandable approach where they are trying to hit a value-oriented price point. Installing serious speakers on an up-the-scale boat and then intentionally underpowering them is a real shame.

Hey, Yamaha factory sound techs / engineers that have been telling management this all along - you are correct!

 

[swatski]

Begs the question why Yamaha doesn't power it properly out of the factory. The base model "Seaworthy" treatment was an annoying but understandable approach where they are trying to hit a value-oriented price point. Installing serious speakers on an up-the-scale boat and then intentionally underpowering them is a real shame.

Hey, Yamaha factory sound techs / engineers that have been telling management this all along - you are correct!

Well, how about tower speaker pods w/DB651s (a $45 coax speaker in retail) in 75k flagship model X?
(and calling it "Slam Pack" for crying out loud)
EDIT: my bad, that's not Slam Pack. Still - I like those DBs (I have 10 of those in the cockpit) - but what's the point of sticking those on a tower???

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[jcyamaharider]

The slam pack is basically what I put into the boat. I went a little more slam on the towers.

https://www.shopyamaha.com/product/...ior-audio-system?b=Boat&d=13|13&dealernumber=

https://www.shopyamaha.com/product/details/jl-audio-slampak-tower-kit?b=Boat&d=13|13

 

[0627Devildog]

Well, how about tower speaker pods w/DB651s (a $45 coax speaker in retail) in 75k flagship model X?
(and calling it "Slam Pack" for crying out loud)
EDIT: my bad, that's not Slam Pack. Still - I like those DBs (I have 10 of those in the cockpit) - but what's the point of sticking those on a tower???

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Hey. . . Dont be knocking the DB651's I just bought on purpose. . . . . I'm not an Audiophile like I used to be. ; )

 

[jcyamaharider]

The DB651 are great speakers. I just require more because the wife and I are deaf.

 

[swatski]

The DB651s are definitely great speakers, best for the money - hands down. I went with those on purpose, too. In my opinion/experience they are both soft and strong (enough for the cabin/cockpit use). Also very musical - I actually prefer the sound of those DB651s to much "brighter" sound of Wet Sounds (such as my ICON8s).

However - no one should consider those DBs as great TOWER speakers.

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[Julian]

Well, how about tower speaker pods w/DB651s (a $45 coax speaker in retail) in 75k flagship model X?
(and calling it "Slam Pack" for crying out loud)
EDIT: my bad, that's not Slam Pack. Still - I like those DBs (I have 10 of those in the cockpit) - but what's the point of sticking those on a tower???

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This is why they went Wetsounds in 2018!

 

[jcyamaharider]

A little update on my stereo system. I didn't think much of this sub till last night. I ended up finding a broken RCA cable so I went and got another one hooked it up holy crap this thing pounds.

 

[0627Devildog]

Audio file or it never happened. . . . . = )

 

[jcyamaharider]

I have to wait until this weekend. Too loud for the neighbor hood. I turn it up an eighth and it is probably still too loud.

 

[0627Devildog]

I have to wait until this weekend. Too loud for the neighbor hood. I turn it up an eighth and it is probably still too loud.

Damn. You adding any batteries?

 

[Dave burke]

Now that you've got the sub working properly, how does it compare to the stock Polk sub?

 

[jcyamaharider]

Now that you've got the sub working properly, how does it compare to the stock Polk sub?

Not even the same league. That JL is a purpose built IB sub and it shows. Now put that Polk sub in a box and I bet that it would sound really good. The polk sub is not meant to be an IB sub. On my last boat I had 2 12" Polk MM series DVC subs in a box powered by a Polk 1000.1 and they sounded great!

@0627Devildog I am going to replace the house battery with a Group 31 deep cycle next year.

 

[Dave burke]

Good stuff. Thx