Coronavirus

[Ronnie]

That dude must have really smelled.
Newer/nicer casinos like that one (Graton?) generally have really good air filtration systems for all the smoke.

He smelled really bad. One of those take a breath, gag a little and look up to see who stinks moments. The AC was pumping in the Graton Casino but it just wasn’t strong enough or he was not close enough to a vent for it to matter for me. I could not lose my money fast enough to get away from the guy. Thankfully I only had a few dollars in credit on the machine I was on.

 

[Evil Sports]

Ivermectin has been around and used successfully in animal health, human health and as insecticides for years. Only thing stopping success is Politics.
Professor Thomas Borody from Australia is reporting fantastic results from a study in California when Ivermectin is combined with Zinc and Doxycycline – 100% cure rate with minimal side effects.
Also, check out the latest study out of Argentina showing great results using Ivermectin as a preventative – 1,195 hospital staff participated. 788 received a combination of Ivermectin & Carrageenan. The other 407 staff received nothing. All staff monitored for the next 30 days…
From the Ivermectin/Carrageenan group, not one person got Covid. In the other group, 58% got Covid!

Argentina’s IVERCAR Ivermectin & Carrageenan Study Shows Positive Results Targeting COVID-19

Based in the southern end of Greater Buenos Aires, Argentina, Eurnekian Public Hospital recently sponsored a clinical trial targeting COVID-19 called the

www.trialsitenews.com

 

[tabbibus]

Ivermectin has been around and used successfully in animal health, human health and as insecticides for years. Only thing stopping success is Politics.
Professor Thomas Borody from Australia is reporting fantastic results from a study in California when Ivermectin is combined with Zinc and Doxycycline – 100% cure rate with minimal side effects.
Also, check out the latest study out of Argentina showing great results using Ivermectin as a preventative – 1,195 hospital staff participated. 788 received a combination of Ivermectin & Carrageenan. The other 407 staff received nothing. All staff monitored for the next 30 days…
From the Ivermectin/Carrageenan group, not one person got Covid. In the other group, 58% got Covid!

Argentina’s IVERCAR Ivermectin & Carrageenan Study Shows Positive Results Targeting COVID-19

Based in the southern end of Greater Buenos Aires, Argentina, Eurnekian Public Hospital recently sponsored a clinical trial targeting COVID-19 called the

www.trialsitenews.com

Sweet baby Jeebus! I’m more concerned with why 58% got infected! That’s terrible.

I’m all for new therapies. But an observational study like this can only be hypothesis generating at best. Hopefully a more robust study can be done. And can someone please get those people some PPE? I’m still appalled.

 

[Evil Sports]

I saw results from a study in California when Ivermectin is combined with Zinc and Doxycycline – 100% cure rate with minimal side effects.
I see the glass half full.

 

[Julian]

I saw results from a study in California when Ivermectin is combined with Zinc and Doxycycline – 100% cure rate with minimal side effects.
I see the glass half full.

The only double blind CA study on Ivermectin I can find is one that kicked off in August and is a 2 year study (clearly they hope for earlier results)....can you link to the one you reference? Below is the one I found:

Top California Gastroenterology Investigator Leads Phase 2 Ivermectin Clinical Trial Targeting COVID-19 Cases

A dynamic research organization in Ventura, California, called Progenabiome, LLC will initiate a Phase 2 clinical trial investigating the efficacy of

www.trialsitenews.com

 

[Evil Sports]

There are a number of trials going in right now using ivermectin not only in the US, just look for them. Either way the whole world is racing towards herd immunity. The number of deaths to confimed cases drops daily in the US. Yesterday it was at 0.027

 

[Evil Sports]

Heres one, Well-Respected Australian Researcher: Consider Triple Therapy (Ivermectin, Zinc, Doxycycline) for COVID-19

 

[Troch1]

Heres one, Well-Respected Australian Researcher: Consider Triple Therapy (Ivermectin, Zinc, Doxycycline) for COVID-19

Interesting, may warrant actually studying for real via RCT, but what you linked to is not actionable (for the average patient or doctor) data. As far as herd immunity, if that’s the standard we are striving for, the globe is royally screwed.

 

[Evil Sports]

No one is striving for that but the virus and it seems intent on winning.

 

[Dean P]

No one is striving for that but the virus and it seems intent on winning.

I wish that was true.

 

[scokill]

Haven’t been here in a while but caught up on all the posts. I’ll share my anecdotal info. I know at least 30 friends and family members that have had covid. Range of ages 10-78. The younger kids had no symptoms and just got tested because the rest of the family tested positive. Only one out of that group had any treatment and that was at home, 55 yr old male. All have no lingering symptoms or issues. My wife’s mom’s husband (not her step dad as they married later in life) died this month..........from Flu A. He was hospitalized for 1 week and continually tested negative for covid and positive for Flu A. He was 87 and had underlying health issue due to smoking most of his life.

 

[tabbibus]

Haven’t been here in a while but caught up on all the posts. I’ll share my anecdotal info. I know at least 30 friends and family members that have had covid. Range of ages 10-78. The younger kids had no symptoms and just got tested because the rest of the family tested positive. Only one out of that group had any treatment and that was at home, 55 yr old male. All have no lingering symptoms or issues. My wife’s mom’s husband (not her step dad as they married later in life) died this month..........from Flu A. He was hospitalized for 1 week and continually tested negative for covid and positive for Flu A. He was 87 and had underlying health issue due to smoking most of his life.

I’m sorry the loss. Pretty early for flu, that sucks. I’m also glad that your folks are ok after Covid. Most people are. Just as most people are ok after most infections (viral or bacterial).

Can’t wait for this shit to be over. I’m tired. Fortunately my hospital numbers are way down. Let’s see if they stay that way! I hope so.

 

[Evil Sports]

Fortunately my hospital numbers are way down. Let’s see if they stay that way!

Thank you for reporting this. I postulated in September a mutation would change this virus in a manor that would reduce its severity and increase its contagiousness. Not saying I know anything about this stuff, my idea came from what I expected as a political message post election but the case vs hospitalization numbers are supporting it.

 

[Julian]

Hospitalization rates are slowly climbing (as predicted due to the increased proximity as the cold weather comes in up north).
I've not heard of any less virulent or less deadly a strain - but our healthcare teams are definitely finding better more effective treatment regimes to lower the mortality. Meaning....left alone, the disease's mortality is unchanged....we are just better at treating it.

I fully expect we see a significant climb in cases and deaths through the winter, just as we do with the flu. Lets hope the flu shots hit the right strains this winter....or we could have a double whammy.

 

[Evil Sports]

Im so nettled with the reporting these days, the flue being lumped into C-19 cases. I cant put my hands on it now but I read its mutated to show up more in the upper respiratory than lower but I cant confirm this.

 

[scokill]

Hospitalization rates are slowly climbing (as predicted due to the increased proximity as the cold weather comes in up north).
I've not heard of any less virulent or less deadly a strain - but our healthcare teams are definitely finding better more effective treatment regimes to lower the mortality. Meaning....left alone, the disease's mortality is unchanged....we are just better at treating it.

I fully expect we see a significant climb in cases and deaths through the winter, just as we do with the flu. Lets hope the flu shots hit the right strains this winter....or we could have a double whammy.

What widespread and readily available treatment is there? Remisdivir was proven not effective.

 

[tabbibus]

What widespread and readily available treatment is there? Remisdivir was proven not effective.

I feel like I’ve said this a few times here. Steroids help. Are cheap. Also we do a procedure callled plasma exchange. It really turns people around.

 

[tabbibus]

Thank you for reporting this. I postulated in September a mutation would change this virus in a manor that would reduce its severity and increase its contagiousness. Not saying I know anything about this stuff, my idea came from what I expected as a political message post election but the case vs hospitalization numbers are supporting it.

To be fair this is just my hospital and others in the area. My colleagues in other states are seeing scary rising numbers.

 

[scokill]

I feel like I’ve said this a few times here. Steroids help. Are cheap. Also we do a procedure callled plasma exchange. It really turns people around.

You might get censored in Twitter for saying anything helps. It was somewhat tongue in cheek comment. The plasma exchange makes sense, but is it a widespread and available treatment? It seems it is not scaleable. The steroids make sense. My wife’s business has been decimated by covid as their major product is nebulizers. It seems there is a fear of spreading covid with a nebulizer vs successful treatment alternative.

 

[anmut]

So, when we knew nothing, I was more fearful of this virus. As I know more now, I'm a lot less fearful. The virus has been weaponized for political gain. My predictions are that if one party sweeps, the virus becomes a non issue by April. If the underdog sweeps, or even retains one branch of government, the virus will continue to "kill us all" until 2024.

Personally, I rely on statistics to determine my fear level. I think the news and political focus on "cases" is complete bullshit. If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. If we put the same focus on other viruses each year, we would have a lot more reported cases. Deaths are what makes this virus lethal (literally). In the same way, if we reported all car accidents, no matter how big or small, in WI in a day, it sure would look a lot more scary than vehicle related deaths.

Where I live, in Wisconsin (a so-called hot zone), I look at our death rate. Currently, our death rate is 2x as much as the 2019 flu season. If I use reason and say "not all flu deaths in 2019 were probably reported correctly AND it's possible that there were deaths associated to covid in 2020 that probably weren't covid..." then one could reasonably say that the death rate for covid is higher than the seasonal flu, but not by much.

I believe that in 10 years we will look back on the politicians and the media that made tons of money on this pandemic and scream "shame on you." However in the current culture of cancellation for a view outside of "common sense" (also known as collective echo chambers), a dissenting opinion could ruin your life.

Btw, just to show my work:

From: Influenza (Flu).
"During the 2019-2020 flu season, there were 36,175 cases of the flu in Wisconsin. Of these, there were 4,425 flu-related hospitalizations and 183 deaths, including three children "

So in 2019, .5% of all reported flu cases in WI ended in death.

From (and as of this post):

wisconsin covid deaths - Google Search

183,000 cases and 1,624 deaths

So in 2020, where we're hypervigilant about testing and attributing covid, the death rate is .9%