Coronavirus

[Dean P]

So, half the people that went got caught COVID and taxpayers just shelled out another $12,000,000,000. Just what we need...

 

[Evil Sports]

Thats the exact sh!t being dolled out every day, and then you hear the neighbors repeating it so now it becomes fact because Joe said so and he "knows"

 

[Robconn]

Thats the exact sh!t being dolled out every day, and then you hear the neighbors repeating it so now it becomes fact because Joe said so and he "knows"
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i think to some degree we are all guilty. I have noticed people seek out information that will support individual viewpoints regardless of the validity of such information or source. You get enough of that even the truth becomes a fabricated reality. On LinkedIn for example, people have hijacked the forum with personal opinions and ideas about covid, politics and current events of the day not appropriate on a professional networking site. What concerns me is the antagonist tone of statements made. Which leaves no room for exchanging ideas on an intellectual level. I question Is this an extension of foreign influence into the American psyche?

 

[donc]

It’s not just about you or me & what we’re worried about.
You don’t get to go drive 120 on the freeway either and it’s not just to keep you safe.

not the same ! not even close!!!!!!!!!

 

[Robconn]

Interesting perspective on the mask debate

 

[Rockfords Fosgate]

Interesting perspective on the mask debate

Great watch, thanks for sharing. Highly informational content delivered by two 'grounded' doctors.

 

[Ronnie]

Last week the Chancellor of California State University stated that remote learning will be in place for at least this entire school year instead of just the first semester/two quarters (I.e., half a school year), whatever the case maybe. This impacts over 20 colleges in California.

 

[Rockfords Fosgate]

Dr Li Meng Yan has joined twitter (she recently fled China), apparently to ensure she can share her research. No real surprise here, but she contends that Covid 19 was not naturally created. It was created by Chinese scientists.

"The evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 should be a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone. Building upon the evidence, we further postulate a synthetic route for SARS-CoV-2, demonstrating that the laboratory-creation of this coronavirus is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months.
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The receptor-binding motif of SARS-CoV-2 Spike cannot be born from nature and should have been created through genetic engineering."

 

[Julian]

Dr Li Meng Yan has joined twitter (she recently fled China), apparently to ensure she can share her research. No real surprise here, but she contends that Covid 19 was not naturally created. It was created by Chinese scientists.

"The evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 should be a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone. Building upon the evidence, we further postulate a synthetic route for SARS-CoV-2, demonstrating that the laboratory-creation of this coronavirus is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months.
...
The receptor-binding motif of SARS-CoV-2 Spike cannot be born from nature and should have been created through genetic engineering."

Most US geneticists have concluded it looks to be a natural variation. If she was working on the team that created it, this might be more interesting - but looks like she wasn't. That said she says she'll produce evidence to prove her case.....time will tell if she just wanted out of China or if she has real proof!

Li-Meng Yan: Chinese whistleblower to provide proof Covid-19 is a lab-based virus

Li-Meng Yan, who is in hiding in the US, has said she will soon provide evidence of her claims that the coronavirus was developed in a Chinese lab.

en.as.com

 

[Rockfords Fosgate]

Most US geneticists have concluded it looks to be a natural variation. If she was working on the team that created it, this might be more interesting - but looks like she wasn't. That said she says she'll produce evidence to prove her case.....time will tell if she just wanted out of China or if she has real proof!

Li-Meng Yan: Chinese whistleblower to provide proof Covid-19 is a lab-based virus

Li-Meng Yan, who is in hiding in the US, has said she will soon provide evidence of her claims that the coronavirus was developed in a Chinese lab.

en.as.com

Did you look at my link? She published her research ("evidence") today.

Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route

The COVID-19 pandemic caused by the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 has led to over 910,000 deaths worldwide and unprecedented decimation of the global economy. Despite its tremendous impact, the origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained mysterious and controversial. The natural origin theory, although...

zenodo.org

Our work emphasizes the need for an independent investigation into the relevant research laboratories. It also argues for a critical look into certain recently published data, which, albeit problematic, was used to support and claim a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. From a public health perspective, these actions are necessary as knowledge of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 and of how the virus entered the human population are of pivotal importance in the fundamental control of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as in preventing similar, future pandemics.

 

[Julian]

Did you look at my link? She published her research ("evidence") today.

Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route

The COVID-19 pandemic caused by the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 has led to over 910,000 deaths worldwide and unprecedented decimation of the global economy. Despite its tremendous impact, the origin of SARS-CoV-2 has remained mysterious and controversial. The natural origin theory, although...

zenodo.org

Our work emphasizes the need for an independent investigation into the relevant research laboratories. It also argues for a critical look into certain recently published data, which, albeit problematic, was used to support and claim a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. From a public health perspective, these actions are necessary as knowledge of the origin of SARS-CoV-2 and of how the virus entered the human population are of pivotal importance in the fundamental control of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as in preventing similar, future pandemics.

I only saw a Twitter link....if that is where is was "published " then I give it as much credence as any other bs on Twitter.

 

[GTBRMC]

I only saw a Twitter link....if that is where is was "published " then I give it as much credence as any other bs on Twitter.

This appears to be the referenced link: Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route

 

[Julian]

This appears to be the referenced link: Unusual Features of the SARS-CoV-2 Genome Suggesting Sophisticated Laboratory Modification Rather Than Natural Evolution and Delineation of Its Probable Synthetic Route

Interesting, but I am simply not qualified to say if what they say holds water or not. Will be interesting to see what experts say about it. This is an old article...but seems many have already studied many of the claims made in that article. So we'll need experts at CDC etc to weigh in on this.

Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

It's a rumour that just won't die.

www.sciencealert.com

 

[Bluewater272]

Dr Li Meng Yan has joined twitter (she recently fled China), apparently to ensure she can share her research. No real surprise here, but she contends that Covid 19 was not naturally created. It was created by Chinese scientists.

"The evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 should be a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone. Building upon the evidence, we further postulate a synthetic route for SARS-CoV-2, demonstrating that the laboratory-creation of this coronavirus is convenient and can be accomplished in approximately six months.
...
The receptor-binding motif of SARS-CoV-2 Spike cannot be born from nature and should have been created through genetic engineering."

FYI, this is really elaborate fake news. The 'Rule of Law Society', which is the authors' affiliation, is a Steve Bannon outfit. Probably just another one of the ways he launders money.

Some actual research here, if so interested.

 

[Rockfords Fosgate]

Purposefully ignoring your political talk to focus on the coronavirus topic. You can keep that to yourself.

The article you shared was from March of this year. A lot has changed in the past 6 months.

The authors of this latest study (Yan, Li-Meng; Kang, Shu; Guan, Jie; Hu, Shanchang) specifically target earlier studies that concluded it was not man made. It's a long read, but they laid out, with great detail, all of their findings. It is now in the open for other scientists to explore, and confirm or refute. This is a good thing.

Rather than resorting to guilt by association and character assassinations - we should be celebrating the sharing of this sort of research.

 

[Dean P]

I hate what has happened to our country I really do but, please remember we all put our pants on the same exact way, from the top down/big opening to the small opening.

 

[Bluewater272]

Purposefully ignoring your political talk to focus on the coronavirus topic. You can keep that to yourself.

The article you shared was from March of this year. A lot has changed in the past 6 months.

The authors of this latest study (Yan, Li-Meng; Kang, Shu; Guan, Jie; Hu, Shanchang) specifically target earlier studies that concluded it was not man made. It's a long read, but they laid out, with great detail, all of their findings. It is now in the open for other scientists to explore, and confirm or refute. This is a good thing.

Rather than resorting to guilt by association and character assassinations - we should be celebrating the sharing of this sort of research.

LOL. This isn't research.

 

[Rockfords Fosgate]

And....just like that, Dr Li Meng Yan was suspended from Twitter. Her research is still available on Scribd and Zenodo.

 

[Julian]

LOL. This isn't research.

Can you explain why you say this? Honestly looking for an expert perspective.

 

[Evil Sports]

Expert?? Good luck with that