Another Example to Start Carrying a Gun On My Boat

[tabbibus]

Well the old guy should have just taken his beating, or let his family be killed of course. Then no one would have been offended. Remember the Kyle Rittenhouse prosecutor? “Sometimes you’ve just got to take a beating”. So the ani-gun political activists would rather you, and your innocent family be injured, or killed, than admit a firearm saved you.

Holy shit, can't believe we are equating the Rittenhouse case with this!

I don't own a gun, don't plan to, and I strongly think our country has a gun problem, but I also can completely sympathize with what happened with this older gentleman boater. But maaaaan. To bring up Rittenhouse? That is such a different set of circumstances.

 

[tabbibus]

Betik often has issues with sentence structure, but given that English wouldn't be his native language, people simply ask him to clarify things. Perhaps you might consider the same, rather than assume someone is drunk.

This seems to be something that has wound you up to the point that you are looking for the worst of intents from forum members. Some of these people might be the very person to save your day on the water. That thought has caused me to ignore a few threads around here, but I understand how I felt when I dove in too deep.

Cheers ?

Common "misconception" that people who don't handle English perfectly are somehow "less than"... when in fact, they are capable of speaking more than one language. Folks will usually get belittled and attacked. What would Alanis Morrissette say about it?

 

[Coult45]

Well the old guy should have just taken his beating, or let his family be killed of course. Then no one would have been offended. Remember the Kyle Rittenhouse prosecutor? “Sometimes you’ve just got to take a beating”. So the ani-gun political activists would rather you, and your innocent family be injured, or killed, than admit a firearm saved you.

I'd like to try and dispel some misconceptions some of you may have about "them". I am a 57 year old former Marine. I was on rifle and pistol teams, and loved every minute of it. I have extensive self-defense training, including a black belt. I am a gun control advocate, and apparently a snowflake based on a number of comments in this and other threads about "them". In spite of my political leanings and my snowflake status, I have more than once backed down bullies bothering me, family, friends, or strangers, using my brains and my words. I think that non-violent outcomes are almost always possible, and guns almost always make a situation worse.

And yet, despite all that, many people like me can still see clearly that this one ended the right way, with the 70 year old and his wife alive and on their boat, and one douche bag dead in the water. Still doesn't make me want us all carrying while we're shopping at Walmart. And I never think things like "i'm glad that old man and his wife just took their beating."

 

[Mesa50]

Common "misconception" that people who don't handle English perfectly are somehow "less than"... when in fact, they are capable of speaking more than one language. Folks will usually get belittled and attacked. What would Alanis Morrissette say about it?

Agreed. Trying to make someone feel bad about not perfectly articulating a 2nd or 3rd language is pretty rude.

 

[drewkaree]

Agreed. Trying to make someone feel bad about not perfectly articulating a 2nd or 3rd language is pretty rude.

I'll say that it sometimes makes for some hilarious conversations when you butcher some words or phrases ?

You learn pretty quickly, and hopefully you'll be taught by friends or people who are understanding, and remember what it was like to be in the same situation.

 

[tabbibus]

Agreed. Trying to make someone feel bad about not perfectly articulating a 2nd or 3rd language is pretty rude.

Speaking one language is expected. Two is pretty cool. More than two is god mode.
I've been bilingual since I was a kid, and I still fuck up even my primary language (spanish)

 

[kgower]

I'd like to try and dispel some misconceptions some of you may have about "them". I am a 57 year old former Marine. I was on rifle and pistol teams, and loved every minute of it. I have extensive self-defense training, including a black belt. I am a gun control advocate, and apparently a snowflake based on a number of comments in this and other threads about "them". In spite of my political leanings and my snowflake status, I have more than once backed down bullies bothering me, family, friends, or strangers, using my brains and my words. I think that non-violent outcomes are almost always possible, and guns almost always make a situation worse.

And yet, despite all that, many people like me can still see clearly that this one ended the right way, with the 70 year old and his wife alive and on their boat, and one douche bag dead in the water. Still doesn't make me want us all carrying while we're shopping at Walmart. And I never think things like "i'm glad that old man and his wife just took their beating."

I agree with you, avoidance and verbal d-escalation are always best, but that doesn't negate the necessity to be prepared for those instances where those tactics don't work. IMHO one should be versed in armed and unarmed self-defense.. I am a martial arts instructor, I hold a 4th degree black belt in two Tae Kwon Do Associations and have an International Master Instructor license. In addition, I am an advanced rank in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. God willing I will never be in a situation to have to use a fire arm, but baring no other choice I won't hesitate. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

 

[tabbibus]

I agree with you, avoidance and verbal d-escalation are always best, but that doesn't negate the necessity to be prepared for those instances where those tactics don't work. IMHO one should be versed in armed and unarmed self-defense.. I am a martial arts instructor, I hold a 4th degree black belt in two Tae Kwon Do Associations and have an International Master Instructor license. In addition, I am an advanced rank in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. God willing I will never be in a situation to have to use a fire arm, but baring no other choice I won't hesitate. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

That's pretty impressive training you have there. But then since we are talking about guns, my mind went here right away

But seriously, very cool. Have you been at it since you were a kid? Seems like a big time investment.

 

[Adrian @ JB Solutions]

Holy shit, can't believe we are equating the Rittenhouse case with this!

I don't own a gun, don't plan to, and I strongly think our country has a gun problem, but I also can completely sympathize with what happened with this older gentleman boater. But maaaaan. To bring up Rittenhouse? That is such a different set of circumstances.

Really? Rittenhouse was attacked just like this old guy. Really not that much different. He was only charged to keep protesters happy. Moral of both stories - don't attack people and you won't get shot.

 

[HangOutdoors]

don't attack people and you won't get shot.

Pretty simple. Not sure why it is so hard to follow.

 

[kgower]

That's pretty impressive training you have there. But then since we are talking about guns, my mind went here right away

But seriously, very cool. Have you been at it since you were a kid? Seems like a big time investment.

Thank you. No actually I didn't begin Tae Kwon Do until I was 36 (1998). Didn't start Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu until a couple of weeks shy of turning 49 (2010). I am 60 today and still train and or teach on average 4 days a week and have done so so since the beginning.

 

[Bluewater272]

All countries used to freely bear arms, and the control of them started somewhere. I'd like people to think through their opinions on this, on both sides. This isn't something to be settled with emotional knee-jerk reactions, and yet, like you pointed out, there's a few bizarre comments in this thread - I too would hope some don't actually represent these people and that it's just the keyboard warrior coming out.

Without steering to far into politics, there is a reason the gun crowd is so defensive - the right to possess is a constitutional right, yet it gets eroded at every opportunity (unlike literally every other one of them). There is no such thing as a compromise or a reasonable conversation to have anymore - every time 'control' is brought up, we have to give up our rights. To my pretty limited knowledge, no other country has said that carrying arms was a god-given right that the government shall not infringe on - it was just a free for all that eventually got reigned in, to the detriment of freedom. That's why we did it differently, and why so many of us refuse to concede more.

Definitely a conversation better suited to beers (sans guns, LOL).

 

[Adrian @ JB Solutions]

Without steering to far into politics, there is a reason the gun crowd is so defensive - the right to possess is a constitutional right, yet it gets eroded at every opportunity (unlike literally every other one of them). There is no such thing as a compromise or a reasonable conversation to have anymore - every time 'control' is brought up, we have to give up our rights. To my pretty limited knowledge, no other country has said that carrying arms was a god-given right that the government shall not infringe on - it was just a free for all that eventually got reigned in, to the detriment of freedom. That's why we did it differently, and why so many of us refuse to concede more.

Definitely a conversation better suited to beers (sans guns, LOL).

This right also acts as a second military. Several countries have flat out said they would not invade the US because you have to face not only the military but a very well-armed population.

 

[2kwik4u]

Speaking one language is expected. Two is pretty cool. More than two is god mode.
I've been bilingual since I was a kid, and I still fuck up even my primary language (spanish)

Have you seen that reporter that does like 7 languages as he switches news casting from one country to another from the same remote location......Found him.....WOW

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

This right also acts as a second military. Several countries have flat out said they would not invade the US because you have to face not only the military but a very well-armed population.

When the Japanese Generals wanted to press on to the west coast of the US after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamato said “there is a rifle behind every blade of grass and the Americans know how to shoot, our boots will never touch dry land before we are cut down” or something close to that. The CMP was started in the early 1900’s to promote the militia being able to come to bear if needed.

 

[Adrian @ JB Solutions]

Do we have a dedicated firearm thread on this forum? This forum works as a jack of all trades for my questions lol lol

 

[Mesa50]

Do we have a dedicated firearm thread on this forum? This forum works as a jack of all trades for my questions lol lol

We don’t need one. About every other post or so, we debate the merits and lack there of, of owning a firearm, drilling for oil, how free healthcare is great and or miserable, should biological men be allowed to beat the crap out of women in sports etc. No one’s mind is ever changed, but it sure is fun.

 

[Shaddow350]

Interesting...

 

[GiddYupJoe]

EXCLUSIVE: 'It was like a demon possessed his body.' Teen who wa

Nathan Drew Morgan, 29, was shot dead on Lake Keowee in South Carolina last week by John Dotson, 74, who rescued him and friend Hannah Ayers, 19.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I see a Yamaha in one of the pictures…

 

[HangOutdoors]

I bet the dope he had, had something laced on it....