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“charged the battery at 100 amps which is TWICE the recommended charge rate of 50 amps.”
Straight to the point but the battery shouldn’t let this happen. Listen ul standards mean crap these days. Many other ul devices still have problems. Idk if you have skin in the game here but I don’t and I’m looking from the outside as a consumer.
I’m not gonna touch that brand with a ten foot pole and I’m not gonna recommend them to anyone. If you watch any other videos and compare the quality it’s obvious. Their design and quality is dated and garbage. Times have moved on and money can be spent on better brands.
To use your turn of phrase, straight to the point. Your original “warning” post was at 0209 hours wherein you basically told
@WiskyDan that his battery had a “huge safety issue”.
At 0545 hrs Zipper responded to you with instructions to go and read a thread about the bb batteries and other lfp batteries wherein there has been extensive discussion on this subject of the alleged safety issue. Had you read through that thread you would have seen
@WiskyDan post in that thread as well, and his opinions on that u tube hit piece you mention, and, you could have edited and tempered your comments a bit, but you did not.
At 0724 hrs
@WiskyDan made post with no comments directed personally at you, his comments were directed at wp and the others on u tube with their comments.
At 0740 hours you responded to my original reply to you where it was obvious you had either not read
@WiskyDan ’s post or just ignored it. You went on in this post to completely ignore the factual representation of wp’s own followup testing that proved there was not safety issue with the battery, the battery performs as designed to protect itself from a radical instance of customer abuse and then wp had to switch to another claim that the bb did not fulfill its promises of continuous duty cycle while at a repeated max output and input and backed this claim up with an air cooled inverter that would have overheated and shut down just as the bb battery did if it was in an enclosed space and not in open air. Then you went to say that UL standards mean nothing, then made an accusation towards me, “Idk if you have skin in the game here but I don’t and I’m looking from the outside as a consumer”, which, further confirms that you did not read the thread zipper pointed you towards lest you would have seen that I looked at several battery brands in my research, just as
@WiskyDan told you, AND, when wp’s u tube came out I did indeed go out and check my batteries and found that there were no problems with my batteries. I will assert that of all the people on this web site, I have used my BB LFP batteries at a duty cycle that is at least 4 times the average user on this web site, so I have real world experience and use of my bb batteries. I also have 30 years of experience in the electrical field that ranges from industrial oil field and refinery as well as the utility industry of which real world fault analysis was a big part of my career,
@WiskyDan pointed this out to you but you ignored that as well.
In other words, you came here as a new member, made an accusation then refused to read any of the materials listed herein, and have also ignored the fact based comments.
Your rebuttal to my post #11 was 59 minutes after I posted my response to your claim that bb batteries are not safe. Wherein I listed the facts that clearly show that wp’s u tubes not only contradicted themselves but lacked proper scientific principles. Proper scientific principle goes like this, you start out with a hypothesis, in this case a bad bb battery of unknown origin with damage and that the battery is somehow unsafe. Next you would obtain a pristine undamaged battery as a CONTROL and conduct tests on it, you would test it with the proper size conductors and fasteners torqued properly per the manufacturers instructions to see if it performed as stated. Then you would apply currents to the battery both max discharge and max recommended charge currents taking care to monitor temperatures carefully with a spot radiometer of both the battery case as well as the terminals. Wp sort of did that as far as discharge currents, and even at two times the recommended input current the battery terminals did not show excessive heating, BUT, he did not clarify which terminal was hotter, the positive terminal or the ground terminal, which was the whole point of this exercise, to show that the positive terminal was getting hot, it was not in fact it was cooler than the negative terminal, but only careful observance of wp’s video reveals that, he purposely did not say which terminal was which to try and maintain his original claim. Then you would introduce the VARIABLE which in this case was charging at two times the recommended charge rate to see what the outcome would be. What did his testing prove? There was no safety issue with the BB battery. But, wp did not conduct the tests using the manufacturers specs, don’t you find that interesting? I sure do.
I will further state that had he conducted those tests at manufacturers max currents, discharge and charge, he would have found that the battery did indeed perform continuously but wp needed to save face and upped the charge current to two times the recommended rate to assure the battery would go into suppression due to high internal heat. That is some blatant hit piece testing if there ever has been and no one in the thousands of comments called that out except me, and yes, I read thousands of those comments, 99.9% of which were laughable at best, pointed that out except me in specific form, others did in so far as that was a ridiculous test that no battery could pass.
As to skin in the game. My skin in the game is the safety of my equipment and to others that would be on my boat, and by extension to those reading the material that I post for others to use here, and that is because I have a
responsibility to others to put forth the factual findings of what I have done, and to update those findings should new information come to light. To suggest otherwise is merely an ad hominem attack on my person to somehow degrade the veracity of what I have to say. As Socrates put it, “When the debate is lost, slander becomes to the tool of the loser”.
You have provided no facts to back up your assertions and you cannot because there no facts to back up your assertions, just fear based on the original u tuber who later did a follow up u tube with an extreme torture test that only proved that there is nothing wrong with the bb battery, proved what bb had said all along that it was customer misuse with the original battery of unknown origin that had that damage.
. We bought the boat in October and used it through the "winter," including Thanksgiving and Christmas day.
