Shoreland'r Really Cheaps Out, Don't They?

[Guitarjesus]

My Sx190 dry weight on the trailer is 3047, with a full tank of gas and supplies it easily pushes a good 3400. The original tires are bias ply with a 1710 weight limit per tire. That puts it at max right there. Is that an issue? Or is this more of a liability thing and the tires can easily exceed that range by a couple hundred pounds? It's what made me want to upgrade to 14" wheels and tires so I can get a little higher speed rating and load rating.

 

[YoDaddy292]

One of my first "mods" was to replace those thin-ass bias ply tires with radials. Yeah, in general these Shoreland'r's for Yamahas just have an overall flimsy feel to them. The twin axle that comes with the 210's are 14" rims. Seems weird that they would use a SMALLER wheel size on a single axle.

 

[Guitarjesus]

One of my first "mods" was to replace those thin-ass bias ply tires with radials. Yeah, in general these Shoreland'r's for Yamahas just have an overall flimsy feel to them. The twin axle that comes with the 210's are 14" rims. Seems weird that they would use a SMALLER wheel size on a single axle.

Yeah, I'm debating whether I get lift blocks for the leaf spring center mount, or put 2x6's cut up under the wheel well steps to just lift them.

Oh, and the Carlisle bias ply tires are 4 ply, not 8 ply. Good god.

 

[Neutron]

Don't forget not 100% of the weight is on tires. There is a few hundred on the tongue

 

[2kwik4u]

Don't forget not 100% of the weight is on tires. There is a few hundred on the tongue

Agreed.

3,400 is heavy for an SX190. My AR190, with a full tank of fuel, a tower, and all our stuff for a day on the lake scaled at 3,160. The tower alone is around 100lbs (took 2 guys to get mine off, but wasn't absurdly heavy), I'm guessing the brackets and hardware are another 40-50.

Here's my scale tickets and calculations.

Boat Weights

Sheet1 With Boat,W/O Boat Front,2860,2980,-120,2760 Rear,3000,2540,460,3880 Trailer,2820,0,4960 340 Combined Weight,8680,11600 Q7 Weight,5520,5520 Boat Weight,3160,6080 Tongue Weight,340,1120 Tongue Percentage,10.76%,18.42% Weight Split Empty,54.0%,Front 46.0%,Rear Weight Split Loaded,48.8%,Fro...

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Tongue weight was 340lbs on mine. So 2,820 on the tires, or 1,410 per tire. Assuming a 1,710 limit for each that's ~20% overhead. I wouldn't call that "cheaping out" myself.

With that said, the move to radials was huge for me. They ran smoother, and cooler than my bias plies. I also lost two radials in a single day a couple weeks ago, soooo.......My opinion is any well maintained tire is best, regardless of radial vs bias ply.

 

[Guitarjesus]

My opinion is any well maintained tire is best, regardless of radial vs bias ply.

100% Although in high heat, pretty sure radials are better on the roads, and across the SoCal desert, it gets as high as 135°f.

And for about a 10 premium per tire, and per wheel, I can get 15" wheels and tires, Vision Marine Heavy Haulers that are actually the same outside diameter as the 13" wheel and tire. Win win. No lift needed.

 

[2kwik4u]

100% Although in high heat, pretty sure radials are better on the roads, and across the SoCal desert, it gets as high as 135°f.

And for about a 10 premium per tire, and per wheel, I can get 15" wheels and tires, Vision Marine Heavy Haulers that are actually the same outside diameter as the 13" wheel and tire. Win win. No lift needed.

Oh, I agree, the premium to get into a good Radial is well worth it.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

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It does look like you’d have to go up to 14” tires which is what my boat trailer came with.

I can tell you that these Endurance radial are so much smoother than the stock bias ply tires.

Here’s the deal in my opinion, yeah Yamaha “stuff” may not be top shelf, bow roller that can leave marks, non sealed trailer lights, bargain basement stereo systems, un finished fiberglass in hidden places etc… but all of those things together keep the cost down and bang for the buck yiu can’t beat these boats for getting folks out on the water and having fun, kinda like what Bayliner did in the 80’s, I still see those 80‘s vintage boats around with folks out on the water having fun and making memories.