The Vaccine

[Julian]

Here is a good article that covers the discussion around the source of the virus. The most interesting comment was that there is no new information/data so no reason to have hyped up energy into pointing fingers in any direction.

The COVID lab-leak hypothesis: what scientists do and don’t know

Nature examines arguments that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab in China, and the science behind them.

www.nature.com

China will never release info that will implicate their lab as the source. EVER. We will never know if they created it. EVER. This I guarantee. That's not how China operates....saving face is #1 in their rules. If they did create it, they've spent the last year erasing that evidence (and possible the people too).

 

[Evil Sports]

Because "They Say" people with previous infection may only need 1 shot, If I go with mRNA Im not "Fully" vaxd with 1 shot.
I see allot of not clear and unsure statements, I also see a reduction of infection of 95% and 89% stated. So that study does not have clear evidence either way.

 

[Bluewater272]

Because "They Say" people with previous infection may only need 1 shot, If I go with mRNA Im not "Fully" vaxd with 1 shot.
I see allot of not clear and unsure statements, I also see a reduction of infection of 95% and 89% stated. So that study does not have clear evidence either way.

FWIW, single shot efficacy from Moderna/Pfizer is higher than the J&J vaccine, by a not insignificant margin. Single shot efficacy is ~82%. This was high enough that you may recall they were pondering if it would make sense to only administer a single shot in the early days to get more people something.

 

[Julian]

FWIW, single shot efficacy from Moderna/Pfizer is higher than the J&J vaccine, by a not insignificant margin. Single shot efficacy is ~82%. This was high enough that you may recall they were pondering if it would make sense to only administer a single shot in the early days to get more people something.

That is exactly what Canada did.....get the maximum people 1 shot ASAP.

I got the J&J and will get a booster of Pfizer or Moderna as soon as I can (I wonder if I can?). I wouldn't get J&J now knowing what we do now (its not as efficacious)....

 

[Mesa50]

Thought you all might find this interesting. The French, Italians, and Germans are protesting/rioting against vaccination passports (green passes). Italian protesters rushed past security, and entered parliament during session, causing it to be shut down.

 

[Bruce]

I am removing the last three comments as they are clearly political. Please try to avoid politics on our forum.

Thanks

 

[AZMark]

I am removing the last three comments as they are clearly political. Please try to avoid politics on our forum.

Thanks

Just making an observation.

Nolo contendere.

 

[Evil Sports]

Sorry couldn't resist

 

[Bruce]

This is exciting data on breakthrough cases. Bottom line, vaccines are working well and saving lives.

COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases: Data from the States

We reviewed the websites and other official state sources for all 50 states and D.C. to see which are providing data on COVID-19 breakthrough cases, hospitalizations and deaths, how regularly, and …

www.kff.org

 

[Evil Sports]

Im going to duck here and ask a loaded question. Im not disputing the fact mortality rates are vastly different for Non vaxed, and never have.
Is it unrealistic to consider this continues to infect people vaxd or not until over 80% of the population has contracted it? Data is starting to support my foolish conjecture.

 

[Tgen2013]

My gal had "A cold ", last August for a week. We had a weekend together,..........ya know. After a weekend of swaping bodily fluids, that Monday she says, "I cant taste anything. I told her to get a test. Sure as shit she had Covid. I got nothing, no symtoms, no sickness.

So that October I got Pfizer part 1,...nothing. I then got Pfizer part 2. Nothing...................I'm sure I developed anti bodies from her stuff. This whole Covid garbage is such a pain in the ass.

From getting shot up for all kinds of world stuff in the USMC, I trust vaccines implicitly.

Even though I got nothing Vaxed is always the way to go if its there.

DATA ? Whatdya mean data ? This clown administration has an agenda, data, and true empirical facts mean nothing,...its agenda and narrative.

 

[tabbibus]

Im going to duck here and ask a loaded question. Im not disputing the fact mortality rates are vastly different for Non vaxed, and never have.
Is it unrealistic to consider this continues to infect people vaxd or not until over 80% of the population has contracted it? Data is starting to support my foolish conjecture.

I don't think the virus will be eradicated. So it'll keep infecting people. Just that the severity of the disease will be minimal.

 

[Tgen2013]

I don't think the virus will be eradicated. So it'll keep infecting people. Just that the severity of the disease will be minimal.

Yes,..the new "delta" and "Lambda" are (sooo contagious),...but DATA shows it is waay less lethal.............. But the clowns in power just want to emphasize the contagious. you watch these idiots will try the whole lock down crap, (In blue states). Your vaccinated, dont care wear a mask !

The DATA shows school age children who contract the Delta or Lambda are down for less than a week, with no serious illness. TTo protest I think I'm going to buy a Japanese Kabuki Demon mask to wear if they re-institute masks.

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Scare the kids in Costco. Ha !

 

[Crob83]

I tested positive this morning, no I am not vaccinated. 99% sure my vaccinated wife gave it to me as she had symptoms for about 3 days and we just thought it was her allergies from the wildfire smoke and stuff(sore throat, cought, puffy eyes, etc) Hopefully it doesn't get any worse than it is as it just feels like some light headeness and occasional sweating so far. Still have an appetite and stuff. Have had symptoms for 2 days, have to work from home for 10 days. Ruined my weekend boating, which hurts in August.

 

[djetok]

Yes,..the new "delta" and "Lambda" are (sooo contagious),...but DATA shows it is waay less lethal.............. But the clowns in power just want to emphasize the contagious. you watch these idiots will try the whole lock down crap, (In blue states). Your vaccinated, dont care wear a mask !

The DATA shows school age children who contract the Delta or Lambda are down for less than a week, with no serious illness. TTo protest I think I'm going to buy a Japanese Kabuki Demon mask to wear if they re-institute masks.

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Scare the kids in Costco. Ha !

Another lock down is coming. One of my employees wife is in management for a large hospital group. He told me earlier that the cdc contacted them today and want them to prepare for another lockdown. Idk if it will happen or not

 

[Evil Sports]

Another lock down is coming. One of my employees wife is in management for a large hospital group. He told me earlier that the cdc contacted them today and want them to prepare for another lockdown. Idk if it will happen or not

Good lord NO, please not again. Yes you hear more contagious but you dont hear more lethal. And I didnt say eradicated. If its variants become less lethal as I believe is the case it will get to the point where people will just deal with it for a few days and have stronger immunity. NO reason for a lock down except to further push towards the Great Reset, perhaps some research on what life in the US will be like after The Great Reset initiative.

Now is the time for a 'great reset' of capitalism | World Economic Forum

Davos 2021 - World Economic Forum 'The Great Reset

 

[Bruce]

The DATA shows school age children who contract the Delta or Lambda are down for less than a week, with no serious illness. TTo protest I think I'm going to buy a Japanese Kabuki Demon mask to wear if they re-institute masks.

I do not know where you get your disinformation but my state is leading on delta and kids are getting sicker with CoVID than they ever have before. Overall 2/3rd of our January peak of cases filled more ICUs and used more ventilators than we ever have before. Hospitals are frequently reporting average ages of ICU patients in the 40s and even 30s. Elective surgeries are being cancelled statewide. Delta is not a joke.

More Arkansas kids are getting COVID-19, and they are getting sicker

Contrary to earlier in the pandemic, when kids were rarely reported to become severely sick with COVID-19, health officials are now alerting the public that the virus is rapidly affecting more children and teens.Driving the news: State health secretary Jose Romero said Tuesday during Gov. Asa...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Bruce]

I tested positive this morning, no I am not vaccinated

Have you talked to anyone about monoclonal antibodies. They are only useful if administered early but can be quite effective if they are.

My brother was able to get the treatment just as his breathing was starting to be effected. That resolved within 24 hours. Unfortunately it took three days for him to get treated. Had he been able to be treated the first day it likely would have never gotten to his lungs. He continued to have some issue for months afterward.

Hope you have a full and fast recovery.

 

[Evil Sports]

Bruce, What happened to the Plasma donations I was doing during the winter, I was under the impression that was quite helpful but I dont hear anything about it now. Its surprising we still dont have solid treatments protocols for this. The Vax was made in a year but solid treatments not so much

 

[Crob83]

Have you talked to anyone about monoclonal antibodies. They are only useful if administered early but can be quite effective if they are.

My brother was able to get the treatment just as his breathing was starting to be effected. That resolved within 24 hours. Unfortunately it took three days for him to get treated. Had he been able to be treated the first day it likely would have never gotten to his lungs. He continued to have some issue for months afterward.

Hope you have a full and fast recovery.

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Thank you sir