The Vaccine

[Tgen2013]

Well none of you are going to Austria , Israel, or Japan, they just slammed the door shut.

 

[I_squared_r]

Well none of you are going to Austria , Israel, or Japan, they just slammed the door shut.

Not long until the USA closes the borders to covid hot spots and force people to stay 15 days in Cancun to quarantine before traveling to the USA. So stupid..

 

[CAM212SS]

Everyone points fingers at the non vaccinated causing people to die.. I guess it's ok then, for a vaccinated person to spread the virus to another vaccinated person, and the one they gave it to, die. From what I see with many on this forum, if they were vaccinated, its OK... dont look at them for "killing someone's grandma". They did the right thing and got the shot, or two, or three

BUT... if a non vaccinated person spread the virus to either a vaccinated or not person, then DAMN them to hell

Why are you all not calling out the ones who have the vaccine killing others with the virus they spread. Even spreading it without knowing they have it. That is what I see you all doing to those who have not received the shot.

 

[Julian]

Everyone points fingers at the non vaccinated causing people to die.. I guess it's ok then, for a vaccinated person to spread the virus to another vaccinated person, and the one they gave it to, die. From what I see with many on this forum, if they were vaccinated, its OK... dont look at them for "killing someone's grandma". They did the right thing and got the shot, or two, or three

BUT... if a non vaccinated person spread the virus to either a vaccinated or not person, then DAMN them to hell

Why are you all not calling out the ones who have the vaccine killing others with the virus they spread. Even spreading it without knowing they have it. That is what I see you all doing to those who have not received the shot.

Who is saying all of this? How about a quote from the post?

 

[Tgen2013]

So I found out that all the ladies I know experiencing vax side effects have the following:

Extreme shortness of breath, like an elephant is sitting on them.
A few have measurable water in their heart lining.
All are being treated with Colchicine. Apparently it works pretty quickly and pretty well.
My gal is still bitching at her MD,..well see how this works out

 

[Julian]

Well none of you are going to Austria , Israel, or Japan, they just slammed the door shut.

A little concerning that Israel has closed its borders....they are one of the least "politically correct" nations around, driven by hard data. I hope it's for an overabundance of caution vs something they've learned that isn't public knowledge yet. Time will tell.

 

[Tgen2013]

A little concerning that Israel has closed its borders....they are one of the least "politically correct" nations around, driven by hard data. I hope it's for an overabundance of caution vs something they've learned that isn't public knowledge yet. Time will tell.

I think its to keep other more lethal undesirables out of the country. I don't blame them.
Great cover. No one will call you a racist.

OMICRON not much of a new variant,........but our system will use it like a nuclear "SCARIANT".

 

[Jim_in_Delaware]

Everyone points fingers at the non vaccinated causing people to die.. I guess it's ok then, for a vaccinated person to spread the virus to another vaccinated person, and the one they gave it to, die. From what I see with many on this forum, if they were vaccinated, its OK... dont look at them for "killing someone's grandma". They did the right thing and got the shot, or two, or three

BUT... if a non vaccinated person spread the virus to either a vaccinated or not person, then DAMN them to hell

Why are you all not calling out the ones who have the vaccine killing others with the virus they spread. Even spreading it without knowing they have it. That is what I see you all doing to those who have not received the shot.

Gotta say, this may be the oddest post that I have read on this thread.

Jim

 

[Tgen2013]

Within the last 48 hours judges in Missouri, Kentucky, and Louisiana blocked mandates for healthcare workers. This is soo going to end up in SCOTUS faster than we thought.

 

[ripler]

It's sad that we are still dealing with Covid for nearly 2 years, all because "the government ain't telling me what to do."

 

[the MfM]

Interesting article.

Particularly the part about how the virus likely mutated into the omicron variant…can’t blame the pure bloods for this one.

@Bruce can you do a background check on the doctor?

This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated

To admit that COVID-19 is mutating to evade our vaccines would be politically incorrect, but this appears to be what is happening, writes Dr. Bradley Bundrant.

www.yahoo.com

 

[tabbibus]

Interesting article.

Particularly the part about how the virus likely mutated into the omicron variant…can’t blame the pure bloods for this one.

@Bruce can you do a background check on the doctor?

This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated

To admit that COVID-19 is mutating to evade our vaccines would be politically incorrect, but this appears to be what is happening, writes Dr. Bradley Bundrant.

www.yahoo.com

That's a very interesting article. But it's lots of speculation and some incorrect assertions. So it reads to me as more of a slightly flawed hypothesis formulating text rather than a educational piece of work.

This would be just fine if it was discussed only amongst those who have the capacity to dissect it and understand it's flaws, while making use of it's thought provoking lines. That's one way in which science can get going. But when presented to the general public, it's effect is unknown and many times the information is taken at face value with deleterious effects.

 

[Lurch]

It's sad that we are still dealing with Covid for nearly 2 years, all because "the government ain't telling me what to do."

LOL

 

[adrianp89]

It's sad that we are still dealing with Covid for nearly 2 years, all because "the government ain't telling me what to do."

Funny, the countries where they don't have a choice, are still dealing with COVID.... by this logic they should be free and clear.

Check out this mind-blowing chart, the states with the least government restrictions are having are the best in the country at community transmission.

It's sad people really have no idea still.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[Murf'n'surf]

Funny, the countries where they don't have a choice, are still dealing with COVID.... by this logic they should be free and clear.

Check out this mind-blowing chart, the states with the least government restrictions are having are the best in the country at community transmission.

It's sad people really have no idea still.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

WOW!! Surely the data from Florida is rigged. (sarcasm)

 

[AZMark]

Funny, the countries where they don't have a choice, are still dealing with COVID.... by this logic they should be free and clear.

Check out this mind-blowing chart, the states with the least government restrictions are having are the best in the country at community transmission.

It's sad people really have no idea still.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

We have no restrictions and we’re bright red.

I couldn’t figure out how Florida could possibly be the only place that has low spread border to border, but this makes some sense of it, if true:

“Because Florida only reports those positive cases among people who are full-time residents of Florida. So, if your full-time residence is in Ohio, and you have a condo in Miami Beach and you go down there and you get COVID, you’re not a case in Florida. You’re not even a case in Ohio. You’re nothing, and that’s why I don’t put a lot of impact on that Florida case rate.”

 

[the MfM]

We have no restrictions and we’re bright red.

I couldn’t figure out how Florida could possibly be the only place that has low spread border to border, but this makes some sense of it, if true:

“Because Florida only reports those positive cases among people who are full-time residents of Florida. So, if your full-time residence is in Ohio, and you have a condo in Miami Beach and you go down there and you get COVID, you’re not a case in Florida. You’re not even a case in Ohio. You’re nothing, and that’s why I don’t put a lot of impact on that Florida case rate.”

If true that obviously skews the data.

I’ve wondered how accurate any of the data sets are. Especially the vaccinated/unvaccinated hospitalization rates.

If someone shows up at the ED with a stroke/heat attack etc. how are they proving their status? Does the hospital assume negative, require proof, take the word of the patient or family members? Does someone follow up later on in the stay to verify accuracy? Are the same standards being followed throughout the country?

I know where I live there is a state database of vaccination status for the covid vaccine. But are they as a matter of routine cross checking the data?

 

[scbruet]

Yeah. Florida's numbers are about as reliable as China's.

 

[adrianp89]

Yeah. Florida's numbers are about as reliable as China's.

Only believe the data when it's convenient and towards your beliefs, huh?

 

[adrianp89]

We have no restrictions and we’re bright red.

I couldn’t figure out how Florida could possibly be the only place that has low spread border to border, but this makes some sense of it, if true:

“Because Florida only reports those positive cases among people who are full-time residents of Florida. So, if your full-time residence is in Ohio, and you have a condo in Miami Beach and you go down there and you get COVID, you’re not a case in Florida. You’re not even a case in Ohio. You’re nothing, and that’s why I don’t put a lot of impact on that Florida case rate.”

Easy - we let it take it natural course. We stayed open, most of the state has either been exposed or has been vaccinated. (Same for most of the Southeast)