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[kgower]

The tower has been an issue since day one. In addition to having issues with the knobs, the biggest headache is that the starboard side of the tower doesn't meet the base. It's off by about .625". A great deal of effort needs to be applied in order to secure it with the knob.

It has been in the shop 4 times this year alone. They have tried to align it, which made it worse. A Yamaha Rep has looked at it twice. I'm guessing a defective tower which should be replaced. They had to pull the tower speaker and courtesy light wires as well as the mid cabin speakers.
Hopefully Yamaha has an answer on Monday.

It looks strange without the tower.

 

[2kwik4u]

Finally found a use for streaming in the truck. Waiting out a rain delay at the soccer field.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Finally found a use for streaming in the truck. Waiting out a rain delay at the soccer field.

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DONKEY!

 

[Thermobrett]

DONKEY!

I was thinking Lord Farquaad myself lol

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

I was thinking Lord Farquaad myself lol

Thats Princess Bride if I am not mistaken?

 

[Thermobrett]

Thats Princess Bride if I am not mistaken?

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

I see that now.. Prince Humperdinck was Princess bride.

 

[Neutron]

Shrek is in my top 10 favorite movies believe it or not, Jaws being number 1

 

[F.M.]

Shrek is in my top 10 favorite movies believe it or not, Jaws being number 1

If Jaws is #1, you’ve obviously never seen Shawshank Redemption.

 

[drewkaree]

The tower has been an issue since day one. In addition to having issues with the knobs, the biggest headache is that the starboard side of the tower doesn't meet the base. It's off by about .625". A great deal of effort needs to be applied in order to secure it with the knob.

It has been in the shop 4 times this year alone. They have tried to align it, which made it worse. A Yamaha Rep has looked at it twice. I'm guessing a defective tower which should be replaced. They had to pull the tower speaker and courtesy light wires as well as the mid cabin speakers.
Hopefully Yamaha has an answer on Monday.

It looks strange without the tower.

Usually, I'm the knob they have issues with . What's the issue?

5/8" is noticeable, but I dunno what the issues have been. Do you have a link, or pics? I know swatski had an issue many moons ago, but I haven't heard anything else since then, from anyone else.

 

[drewkaree]

This may not show up well, but a 2 am conversation about blowing out the ass end of the launch, as well as power loading and waking up half the neighbors isn't really conducive to pics of the jackassery.

Apparently, you're only allowed out after dark, and bow fishing only, if you have the Billy Ray Cyrus P3n!$ Enhancer 3000

 

[2kwik4u]

If Jaws is #1, you’ve obviously never seen Shawshank Redemption.

I watched Shawshank for the first time, at 45, a few weeks ago.

Hate to admit it, but I don't see the hype.

For those guessing, the picture was the DreamWorks opening sequence before "The Wild Robot".

 

[2kwik4u]

Usually, I'm the knob they have issues with . What's the issue?

5/8" is noticeable, but I dunno what the issues have been. Do you have a link, or pics? I know swatski had an issue many moons ago, but I haven't heard anything else since then, from anyone else.

Agreed. Need some pics of the issue. This is one of the first tower issues I've read of since swatskis collapse on the way to bimini years ago.

Mine has always needed a "nudge" to get the second knob aligned. Tower moves around quite a bit before being screwed down. Yamaha doesn't use the thickest wall tubing, and the forward spent geometry isn't the strongest laterally, by design. So I would expect some movement and misalignment.

Not to make excuses for Yamaha, but a weldment of this size will have a natural tolerance in the 1/4in to 3/8in, so 5/8in is high, but not absurdly so.

Hope @kgower gets the support they need from Yamaha.

 

[Thermobrett]

If Jaws is #1, you’ve obviously never seen Shawshank Redemption.

This may not show up well, but a 2 am conversation about blowing out the ass end of the launch, as well as power loading and waking up half the neighbors isn't really conducive to pics of the jackassery.

Apparently, you're only allowed out after dark, and bow fishing only, if you have the Billy Ray Cyrus P3n!$ Enhancer 3000

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I call them concrete cowboys, trucks that will never see off road more than a gravel driveway.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

I watched Shawshank for the first time, at 45, a few weeks ago.

Hate to admit it, but I don't see the hype.

For those guessing, the picture was the DreamWorks opening sequence before "The Wild Robot".

It’s always nice to see bad people get their comeuppance…

 

[Neutron]

If Jaws is #1, you’ve obviously never seen Shawshank Redemption.

Seen it many times, its good but not in my list

 

[kgower]

Usually, I'm the knob they have issues with . What's the issue?

5/8" is noticeable, but I dunno what the issues have been. Do you have a link, or pics? I know swatski had an issue many moons ago, but I haven't heard anything else since then, from anyone else.

This was in the prep lane before our first launch. It happened again about 3 weeks later. We have to lower the tower to fit in the storage unit. and we couldn't lower it with the stud in the way. We were able to remove it with vice grips.
My theory is that that due the gap and the upward pressure when upright, the tower rubs 3-4 threads off the knobs. Fortunately, there have been bene no serious issues. I do find it curious that the replacement tower knobs have been of different lengths. I may eventually just replace them with something from McMaster Carr.
It hasn't kept us from enjoying the boat, it just makes set and tear down a little frustrating.

 

[kgower]

Agreed. Need some pics of the issue. This is one of the first tower issues I've read of since swatskis collapse on the way to bimini years ago.

Mine has always needed a "nudge" to get the second knob aligned. Tower moves around quite a bit before being screwed down. Yamaha doesn't use the thickest wall tubing, and the forward spent geometry isn't the strongest laterally, by design. So I would expect some movement and misalignment.

Not to make excuses for Yamaha, but a weldment of this size will have a natural tolerance in the 1/4in to 3/8in, so 5/8in is high, but not absurdly so.

Hope @kgower gets the support they need from Yamaha.

Although a little delayed, Yamaha seems to be addressing it. This will be a telling week. Our storage unit is on marina property, which is dealer connected, which is convenient for service because they just run up with their tractor and pull to the shop. The reason they put it back in the unit for me is because I wanted to wire in the RGB lights to the Rev 6's in installed about a month ago. I didn't know that the boat was still a work in progress. The mid cabin speakers are out for access. I had taken the tower speakers off to make it easier for the tech. The obviously had to pull (hopefully not cut) the tower speaker wire through as well as the courtesy light connection in order to remove the tower. The side panel are on the deck in the bow, screws and bolt in various cup holders. I decided that pulling wire ex cetera was going to be problematic. In the end all I accomplished was the placement of the fuse box and RGB controller on the opposite wall of the battery switch.

 

[drewkaree]

This was in the prep lane before our first launch. It happened again about 3 weeks later. We have to lower the tower to fit in the storage unit. and we couldn't lower it with the stud in the way. We were able to remove it with vice grips.
My theory is that that due the gap and the upward pressure when upright, the tower rubs 3-4 threads off the knobs. Fortunately, there have been bene no serious issues. I do find it curious that the replacement tower knobs have been of different lengths. I may eventually just replace them with something from McMaster Carr.
It hasn't kept us from enjoying the boat, it just makes set and tear down a little frustrating.

It's been 7 months since I saw my boat, so I don't know how mine looks in comparison to what you described. Hopefully someone else can show pics of what theirs looks like to side-by-side it and see if that's the typical transformation of the bolts, or if the wear from takedown is going to be an issue.

Like @2kwik4u, the 2nd knob has ALWAYS been in need of fiddling. I don't have my wife tighten it down after she slightly cross-threaded it the first time, due to the movement and looser tolerances.

I also start by reversing the rotation when trying to install the knob. I start turning lefty-loosey until I hear and feel the click, which tells me the bolt is seated square on the threads, and then proceed to tighten the knob at that point.

Bad casting or finish work, possible scarring of the bolt and/or nut, debris in the works, any number of things have caused slight issues, and in your situation, it's increased by the need for lowering every time.

If they can figure it out and fix or replace the problem, going forward I would take a small brass brush to everything prior to tightening, and maybe add some dry lubricant to the threads. You're not going to be making cross-seas trips, so ease of disassembly seems to be a greater priority.

Dunno if a lock washer or star washer can be fitted for some holding power peace of mind, or if that's too much added to the area

I'm looking forward to hearing a successful discovery and fix for you