Goodbye Good Riddance 2021 Yamaha SX195

[kjr6306]

I see a nice row boat in this guy's future......they get great mileage!!

 

[Coolbreeze704]

Trying to figure out, in starting this thread, what the purpose or expected outcome was.

Are you wanting someone to talk you off the ledge? Not going out the window (buying the boat) and getting on the ledge in the first place is/was on you.

Are you just wanting to vent? Seems like you knew you were going to get inundated with opposing opinions, so.....?

Are you trying to warn off others? Seems like you've given them very little that can't be addressed, but why didn't you consider this in the first place, for yourself?

As others have asked, what's the plan going forward, boatless or moving to something else?

Puzzling, to say the least.

 

[I_squared_r]

After two seasons with our Yamaha SX195 it was time to say goodbye.
And IMO good riddance.
Honestly the one and only good thing I can say about it was GREAT SWIM PLATFORM!
Sorry but absolutely, pathetic, stupid, ridiculous gas mileage.
Sick of lugging and dumping 5 Gallons and 25$+ into it every time we headed to the marina slip.
12 miles down the lake 12 miles back and kiss $50+ away.
Crap handling. Scary AF at idle speeds. Crap feedback at the wheel.
Had to add Cobra Jet steering enhancement because?
Engine too loud to talk over.
Anyway - everyone is entitled to their opinion.
And I can sum it up by answering that question they always ask during product reviews: "Would you recommend this product to a friend?"
Answer = No.

My 19ft is extremely maneuverable at slow speeds. Yeah its loud. Gas mileage is acceptable, but not great. A bowrider with an OB gets better mileage, but you lose the swim platform and they are A LOT more expensive than jet boats. I wanted a 24ft bowrider with OB and they are very expensive compared to Yamaha. The money saved with Yamaha pays the gas for at least the next 10 years.

 

[rkluck]

I am sorry you disliked the boat so much. I have had many boats and each one has it's plus and minus features. I learned how to handle mine without the Cobras and then when I did put them on it was even easier. I backed into our slip and that was always exciting but add a good wind and wow! HA I also drove a pontoon and had a Carolina skiff and it was even worse! I did put sound damping in ours to help with the sound but it was rarely a problem. Yes she did use gas but I didn't think it was excessive considering the power she had. Overall my whole family always thought that was the best boat we ever had and the only one we talk about when telling "stories".

 

[bigsapper]

We've got a '21 SX190. 2 seasons now; our first boat. We've enjoyed it, but the noise complaint is legit. If we had gotten the 195 I probably would've been happy with the performance and it would be a keeper. But between the noise and lack of performance, our next boat will likely be something else. Looking at a Chaparral OB.

 

[Thermobrett]

We've got a '21 SX190. 2 seasons now; our first boat. We've enjoyed it, but the noise complaint is legit. If we had gotten the 195 I probably would've been happy with the performance and it would be a keeper. But between the noise and lack of performance, our next boat will likely be something else. Looking at a Chaparral OB.

I would agree with you on the upgrade from the 190 to something a bit more powerful. Being a guy, bigger and more power is better, but all the reviews I did steered me towards the SX195 instead of the 190. I would assume my average cruising speed is your top end on the 190, then I have about another 10-15mph more on my top end. For an entry level boat with this many options and a modest price point, it’s a no brainer.

 

[Thermobrett]

Now to piggy back on the original thread, we took our friend out with her fiancé last weekend who has only been in a ferry once in his life and got super sick. We went for a cruise and the look on his face was priceless, then I let him drive back from the restaurant and I swear his smile was as big as the joker from Batman. All he kept saying was “this is something we need to work towards”. Usually I get a fist bump from him, this time, he came in with the man hug lol.

 

[tbg0519]

Way late to the thread but people who buy a jetboat need to focus on both root words, not just the latter (boat). At its heart, a jetboat still shares many traits of a jetski too. The engines are loud. Both because of the engine itself and also because the exhaust is coming out of the boat at a more shallow depth. I'd bet my 195S is quieter than a Nautique with its exhaust coming out the back of the boat rather than underwater. Also, jetboats turn higher rpms than I/O, inboards etc, which results in louder and higher pitched noise. Running it at that higher RPM is going to suck down the gas, especially with the SVHO engines needing premium fuel.

That being said, we don't burn through gas any worse then my buddy's tri-toon because I typically cruise at the lowest speed that will run on-plane for the conditions. If you think your jetboat is burning tons of fuel, try driving a Hatteras sport fisher. And if you want a boat that gets good fuel economy, then might I suggest a nice sloop or a Hobie-cat?

 

[zipper]

Way late to the thread but...And if you want a boat that gets good fuel economy, then might I suggest a nice sloop or a Hobie-cat?

I second a nice sloop, lol.

Edit: It's been a year or two, idk, since I topped off the diesel tank.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

You know that I like the CC boats… I look at all of them. The best mpg I’ve seen out of one of those was pushing 5 mpg with 150 or 200 hp outboard and a standard prop, I think it was a Honda since they are the mpg kings, and if I remember correctly with a Sharrow prop, a conservative guesstimate put it at tad over 6 mpg at best cruise.

I keep looking at some of those CC boats and they are really nice, more fuel / range than my boat with some more storage perhaps but I always come back to my swim deck and how great that feature is, I use it all the time. If there was one with a little diesel inboard that was below deck with a swim step I might have to consider that.

 

[Jim_in_Delaware]

One of the nice FSH upgrades for 2023 is the 75 gallon fuel tank on the 222. Doesn’t help the m.p.g.s, but at least the boat goes a more reasonable distance now.

Jim

 

[84rzv500r]

Scary AF at idle speeds? That may be a little drastic of a take?

I will say I can run circles around my outboard equipped fellow boaters.... In water depths they won't put there motor down and idle in...

 

[84rzv500r]

One of the nice FSH upgrades for 2023 is the 75 gallon fuel tank on the 222. Doesn’t help the m.p.g.s, but at least the boat goes a more reasonable distance now.

Jim

I agree... I upgraded from 40 gallons in my AR210 to 70 gallons on the engine swap and having the extra tankage with reserve is great... based on my last 60 mile trip I got ~2.5 mpg ave

 

[Thermobrett]

I agree... I upgraded from 40 gallons in my AR210 to 70 gallons on the engine swap and having the extra tankage with reserve is great... based on my last 60 mile trip I got ~2.5 mpg ave

I think I average 2.3 to 2.5 mpg on the 195 at a consistent cruising speed. WOT, probably .5 mpg lol

 

[84rzv500r]

I think I average 2.3 to 2.5 mpg on the 195 at a consistent cruising speed. WOT, probably .5 mpg lol

LOL no kidding the MR-1s are 11.9 GPH each at WOT... the AR230 HO has a 50 gal tank and they rate cruising range at 2 hours the math is close enough for jazz...

 

[Babin Farms]

LOL no kidding the MR-1s are 11.9 GPH each at WOT... the AR230 HO has a 50 gal tank and they rate cruising range at 2 hours the math is close enough for jazz...

When I can make it 50+ miles to Bimini in extremely rough conditions and use maybe 30 gallons of fuel when some of the the newer 240 series boats couldn’t make it there on 50 gallons I’d say the MR-1 is great on fuel compared to others.

 

[Thermobrett]

If you’re going to complain about burning gas when running a boat, buy a canoe. I’m sure we all did our research before buying so we all knew what we were getting into.

 

[84rzv500r]

When I can make it 50+ miles to Bimini in extremely rough conditions and use maybe 30 gallons of fuel when some of the the newer 240 series boats couldn’t make it there on 50 gallons I’d say the MR-1 is great on fuel compared to others.

yes I agree the sweet cruise spot seems to be around 7000 RPM in the low 30's in my boat...

 

[84rzv500r]

If you’re going to complain about burning gas when running a boat, buy a canoe. I’m sure we all did our research before buying so we all knew what we were getting into.

lol i cant quite figure out why my fuel consumption is directly related to my coors light consumption..

 

[Farny]

I’ll give you $5k for it @JESFromASC