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Thanks for the bday wishes guys. I went window shopping at my local yamaha dealer a few days ago (my "birth month" is not over yet) but only ended up buying Yamalube after being sticker shocked at what pwcs cost these days. Here is what I found at both ends of the spectrum. View attachment 29354View attachment 29356View attachment 29357View attachment 29359
Actually it was a full house. There was some large car show going on in Pigeon Forge which isn't far we were told. We just got their when they opened the doors and I snapped some pictures. Great place, Id like to go back wintertime.
The dealership told me the definition once but I've since forgotten the exact wording. Simply put adm is a bundle of fees such as shipping, setup, etc. (taxes are excluded).
I'm still blown away by what the old financed cost in the spark 2up is before taxes but including adm . $140 x 12 months = $1,680 per year, $1,680 x 84 months (7 years) $11,260 ouch).
The dealership told me the definition once but I've since forgotten the exact wording. Simply put adm is a bundle of fees such as shipping, setup, etc. (taxes are excluded).
More often then not (when talking toys/cars etc.) "ADM" stands for "administrative fees" like mentioned above or "Additional Dealer Mark-up". Both charges are typically bs and can be identified as "play money" for the dealers. You should pay for the item, tax, and registration. Negotiate all else out. Shipping fees should be on the window sticker and not added on top of the price of the item you're purchasing.
I understand "additional dealer mark-ups" are used when you have crazy folk that just have to be the first on the block to have something that everyone else wants, and at the end of the day, dealerships are businesses and not a charity. (example: Try to order a 2016 GT350 right now at a ford dealer for MSRP. It's doable, but tough.)
Administration Fees or doc fee: Normally anywhere from $50-$250 and it's an unnecessary expenditure that you're paying for someone (who is already on the payroll) to fill out some paperwork.
More often then not (when talking toys/cars etc.) "ADM" stands for "administrative fees" like mentioned above or "Additional Dealer Mark-up". Both charges are typically bs and can be identified as "play money" for the dealers. You should pay for the item, tax, and registration. Negotiate all else out. Shipping fees should be on the window sticker and not added on top of the price of the item you're purchasing.
I understand "additional dealer mark-ups" are used when you have crazy folk that just have to be the first on the block to have something that everyone else wants, and at the end of the day, dealerships are businesses and not a charity. (example: Try to order a 2016 GT350 right now at a ford dealer for MSRP. It's doable, but tough.)
Administration Fees or doc fee: Normally anywhere from $50-$250 and it's an unnecessary expenditure that you're paying for someone (who is already on the payroll) to fill out some paperwork.
Emma, Gavin and a neighbor showing off the first ripe cantaloupe from the plant that Gavin planted. It was a late producer as Gavin saved the seed from a store bought cantaloupe that he enjoyed and planted them in late July or early August.