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Another carbon monoxide death

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I wonder what the CO levels are in a cove with a bunch of big boats tied up all running their generators? You'd think people would be dropping like flies if this was the case. I mean I've seen a shit load of big boats tied up in party cove with everyone floating in the water and they all have their generators running.
 

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I wonder what the CO levels are in a cove with a bunch of big boats tied up all running their generators? You'd think people would be dropping like flies if this was the case. I mean I've seen a shit load of big boats tied up in party cove with everyone floating in the water and they all have their generators running.
Thats why a lot of boats use diesel generators instead of gasoline generators, Diesel engines by their nature do not produce CO.

 

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I wonder if a solution would be to have weight sensors back there where if there was a load above XX pounds, then the engines wouldn't rev above idol. Something else to break I know, but may be better than losing the swim platforms altogether. wouldn't stop people from sitting on the seat backs, but at least its a start.
The engines would still be running and producing CO, so this isn't a solution.
 

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The engines would still be running and producing CO, so this isn't a solution.
My understanding is that the deadly situation happens when the boat is in motion, thereby creating a vacuum in this area, so, then limiting to idol would be ok. If it needs to be a shut off, then whatever. My only point is that this solution would be preferable, to me anyway, than having personal injury lawsuits force design changes that result in losing the swim deck altogether. Hopes of changing the legal industry or jury awards are only available with legislative tort reform which, in the current political environment, is not a high priority. Its also easier for insurers to lean on manufacturers than 50 legislatures.
 

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My understanding is that the deadly situation happens when the boat is in motion, thereby creating a vacuum in this area, so, then limiting to idol would be ok. If it needs to be a shut off, then whatever. My only point is that this solution would be preferable, to me anyway, than having personal injury lawsuits force design changes that result in losing the swim deck altogether. Hopes of changing the legal industry or jury awards are only available with legislative tort reform which, in the current political environment, is not a high priority. Its also easier for insurers to lean on manufacturers than 50 legislatures.
Idling along is probably the most dangerous in terms of CO stationwagon effect. Less air movement would allow the idling exhaust to gather in the back of the boat. Not a bad idea though....just have the sensors alarm if there are people on those seats when the engines are running (at all). The only problems with this are: 1) these seats get wet routinely, so those sensors will take a beating 2) many people put "stuff" on those seats when running (like ballast for surfing or tubes etc), and this would cause a false alarm.
 

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Idling along is probably the most dangerous in terms of CO stationwagon effect. Less air movement would allow the idling exhaust to gather in the back of the boat. Not a bad idea though....just have the sensors alarm if there are people on those seats when the engines are running (at all). The only problems with this are: 1) these seats get wet routinely, so those sensors will take a beating 2) many people put "stuff" on those seats when running (like ballast for surfing or tubes etc), and this would cause a false alarm.
Completely forgot about the wake surfing guys. Not my use case, alas.
 

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Exiting the exhaust under water like most I/O would solve the CO issue and the side benefit of this would be a much quieter boat as well.
 
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